Charles Carroll Non-Sense Ramblings

Caution to the reader: The below content contains explicit language.

Below are emails Charles sent out trashing me and others behind our backs. Charles emails are in plain text and my response to his accusations in bold.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 22, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Proof Ryan cannot be trusted...
To:

Ryan cannot be trusted with usernames and passwords. Despite my
differences I did not delete his accounts or passwords on my servers,
and did not remove his moderation status from groups, because I wanted
him to move off servers at his convenience, and if he forgot something
then he could get it.

Several times (once on YahooGroups, now on my personal blog) Ryan used
his accounts and password to do things he knew are wrong so that must
change.

I saw him do it once or twice and gave him benefit of the doubt. I
shall not again.

It's nice how he accuses me of abusing logins, but doesn't give any specific details.

Ryan Olshan became someone I would never use for the Ad Agency or
Attilan several months ago. And someone I would not consider a friend,
but would not consider an enemy either. Now he is upgraded to an enemy
in terms of the fact I will ignore anything he does, never help him
even if I could, and while I don't wish him harm I will not be
surprised if his behavior hurts himself and others.

Nice. I'm now an official enemy. What kind of sane person keeps an enemy list? You either like somebody or you don't, but when you start an enemy list, something is really wrong with you.

Because of other issues in my life I did something wrong to him. I
think it was small compared to the multiple ways he wronged me, but I
did something wrong. And I was wrong because his multiple wrongs still
did not justify me retaliating in the incorrect way I did.

He did things in the next few weeks that would upgrade him to
dishonest, rude and an enemy.  And his actions crossed the line to
become evil actions; he did not become EVIL just an immature person
doing rude, incorrect, irresponsible, narcassistic things and
justifies the reasons I borke relations personally and business wise.
If he hadn't done them, we would not be friends, and would not do
business, but he could have appologized, fixed it/attoned and I would
have at least become his friend again, maybe but unlikely do business
with him.

Amazing how I'm the only person that did something wrong here. It baffles me how he can turn everything I did into something wrong.

He lied to Knights about his situation with me. He was 100% wrong and
I was 100% right on this one; It was not gray. A good friend of mine
for 20 years I introduced to Ryan tried to warn Ryan to appologize to
me and to fix the wrongs he had done and Ryan did not do so. He
actually made me mad enough to punch him, after a few weeks of
harrasing emails, and a content filter he put on his won account so he
got none of my responses.

He accuses me of being a liar, but yet doesn't go into detail about what I'm lying about. He wanted me to apologize for the bad things he did to me as if it was my fault. And I did put up a content filter for his incoming emails because he started sending abusive emails. All of my emails to him were polite. He's the one who sent out harassing emails.

Really a half dozen horrible other things happened that week I could
not fix that amplified my anager at Ryan, and I should have ignored
the things he did rather than react violently. I have since
straightened out most of those half dozen matters, as cooler heads
prevailed. I had no one I could talk to about most of them, so I had
nowhere to vent and was depressed. I read books now about how to avoid
depression having such an effect and making my temper more severe and
I did speak to the people who did me wrong I could not talk to at the
time which compunded my depression and anger.

Also some faulty logic about a past incident with Paul Druao (in my
early 20's) made me think what my words did not say to him my punch
would sink in he crossed the line. He is so mentally defective an Atom
Bomb and an army of shrinks could not convince him he crossed the
line.

It's n ice of the King of Mental Defectiveness to call me mentally defective. Sheesh.

Thats why he would not make a good friend and would make a shitty
buisness partner on the Ad Agency so good riddance to bad rubbish I am
glad to ditch him now before he did any real damage (more than he did
already).

I don't even need to say anything about that paragraph as those that know me know that he's just going on a rant in that paragraph. I was a very good friend to Charles and he ruined that by using and abusing me, just like everyone else in his life.

I am not a violent person, It is something I have not done in 22 years
to anyone (my Dad was the last person I hit). And he called the cops
and I went to court on January 10th and was given 10 days in Jail
suspended sentence for assault. Basically no penalty as long as I
don't do it again, and now I have a police record.

He of course has shared the fact I hit him with Knights, Bill Ryan,
mutual friends and ex-friends without telling them the multiple things
he did wrong. Bill Ryan wrte a blog entry about it and removed it 1
hour later so few saw it (I did) where he insulted me and Doug in his
usual poorly researched poor general semantics style. If they are dumb
enough to think I hit him without some pretty impressive and multiple
provocations that is their fault. I have no other assault charges on
file, so I am not a serial offender and do not believe I will ever
assault again no matter how sad, mad or depressed I get.

Of course I shared it. I wasn't going to hide up and conceal this incident. If he was worried about me telling people about it, he shouldn't of done it in the first place. If he claims he won't do it again, then why did he threaten me in the parking lot a couple weeks after he assaulted me and told me, "It's going to hurt you a lot fucking more next time."? If he did it once, then there's no doubt in my mind that he'll do it again.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 22, 2007 11:36 PM
Subject: Sad abd Sadder
To:

I won't waste time responding of course but sad they just got so much
time to waste being negative; confirms why I was so smart to kick Ryan
out for social/emotional IQ issues before he ruined the AdAgency; I
will get someone better to do the infrastructure in 6-18 months and
launch then. I will say that I have no intention of responding and
unlike the past where I cared about whether my "tribe" had my back
neither of these guys are worth 5 seconds of response by any of us. I
just wanted everyone to know I have already seen it, no reason to
inform me of it's existence.

Amazing how he says I have social and emotional issues. I think he has me confused with himself. He claims I ruined the ad agency, but in fact the reason it never got off the ground was because Charles set unreasonable goals. He wanted an insane amount of work done in a short time, even though I was working a full time job.

http://inlineasp.blogspot.com/ by most likely Ryan Olshan
now allied with http://msmvps.com/blogs/williamryan/
 - the guy who never met me
 - takes everything out of context
 - accuses me of groping his girl
 - says I lie about things I openly admit, and that proves I did
things I never did
  (if he ever learns general semantics, unlikely, or the great
   "Rules for an Argument" book he would learn how faulty his logic is)

It's amazing how he can accuse me of putting up that site. Then he accuses Bill Ryan of spreading false lies. What Bill Ryan posted about Charles was truthful. However, Charles cannot handle the truth and instead covers it up with the few friends he has left.

Misery does love company.

Bill Ryan has been more of a friend than Charles has in the short period of time we've been friends.

Fortunately for me most people take this out of context stuff with a
grain of salt and when they read my super positive blog entries, and I
don't waste time writing about others.

I won't waste anytime attacking Ryan for the $2,000 of damage he did
to my van, his poor behavior after being given FREE lessons in C# by
chat (never programmed before), a paid for plane ticket, some books, a
free class where 4 other students paid $1,500 each to be there,
confidence building, yada yada yada.

Charles gave me driving lessons in the middle of the night on a freeway in his uninsured van when he knew I should of been wearing glasses during the lesson and he also knew I didn't have a license. When he fell asleep during the lesson, I side swiped a concrete barrier causing a dent down the side of his car. To this date, almost 6 months later, as far as I know, he has not got an estimate, so to claim that I owe him $ 2000.00 is absurd.

I didn't want to go his C# class and he begged me. I had never met him before, so I was reluctant to go meet a perfect stranger, especially one who people have shown this level of dislike for. So, in an effort to coax me to go, he told me he wouldn't make me pay for the class or my airfare. He was tacky enough when we split to demand that I pay him for the airfare and class. His class was so bad that I felt awful for those that paid. It was so bad that I offered to speak in front of his class on .NET Generics and did so for over an hour so that those that paid got something useful out of it. You don't see me demanding that I be reimbursed for teaching his class.

He bought me books as a thank you for the time I put into managing his server team on a volunteer basis as well as doing free coding for him, among other volunteer tasks. The value of the books did not equal the monetary value of the time I put in, so they're a small factor in this equation.

Bill tends to remove his entries quickly as he gets tired. Ryan's
entry will probably be permanent and numerous, the OCD factor and all.
I must confess this site is defintely Ryan Olshans -- Bill lost his
nerve a while ago. That entry is identical to a comment posted on my
blog Ryan approved, and I logged in deleted the comment and removed
Ryan as a user so he started the site in retaliation. 

It's nice how he can second guess Bill and accuse me of what he has no proof of.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 23, 2007 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [KnightsOfAspRoundTable] Proof Ryan cannot be trusted...
To:

Ryan in person was a bit intolerable.

Brainy but the maturity of a potty mouthed rude 12 year old.

Those who live in a glass house shouldn't throw stones.

He delights in passing a smelly fart in an enclosed elevator or car
and rolling the windows back up after I try to roll them down for air.
He says crude beyond belief things to Suzy and me about vile acts in
graphic details like Cleveland Steamers and Dirty Sanchezs (he is
likely a vrigin raised in a "porno generation") and other filthy sex
practices he delights in explaining no matter how one attempts to stop
his explanation insisisting on continuing despite us telling him to
stop mid-sentence.

While I did talk like this to Charles, that was only because he gave off the impression that it didn't bother him and he talked back to me with the same filthy language. Although his description of it is a little bit of an exaduration.

He begged to practice driving in my van and did $2,000 worth of damage
to it by sideswiping a concrete barrier -- I then discovered he never
mentioned he is legally blind basically and has never followed through
ion getting glasses till after he damaged my van.

I didn't beg. He was the one who wanted me to practice driving lessons. Also, I'm not legally blind and he knew well in advance that I needed to wear glasses.

He insisited he wanted a 50% partnership for his server admin work on
Ad Agency (which meant 50% of profit) and was constantly late or not
meeting any of the reporting tasks the customers needed because he
worked super hard on Attilan when in California because he did the
work on D-Link's dime but as James Hill and I were suprised to find
lacked the energy to do anything after work on evenings or weekends so
his contributions dropped substantially since he came here. Since
James and I held multiple jobs and pursued multiple projects in our 20
while even dating, we were shocked a single guy with no obligations
was so lethargic and lazy.

I did all the hard work for the ad agency. The reason there was late work done was because he constantly set unreasonable deadlines for huge amounts of work while I was working a full time job. I don't care what he and James Hill or his girlfriend did in their spare time. They're irrelevant to all of this. If he wasn't there pushing me with unreasonable goals, I would of been able to finish the work. However, his expectations were too high and he expected me to do the work of 2 or 3 people in a short amount of time. If that makes me lazy and lethargic, then by all means I'm lazy and lethargic.

When he needed a bed Suzy helped him pick an incredible mattress of
equisite quality that I drove 1.5 hours each way to pick up -- since I
got him a xxk job (thanks to [AspNetMetroArea] and my recommendation
ot Jon Cogley) and he used to make xxk I suggested it would be super
polite to buy Suzy her bed or future favors would dry up. The next
morning after I took the trip and picked up bed I needed him at the
U-Haul by 9am to finish the deal or the $200 Uhaul rent would raise to
$540. He lay in his new bed awake for over an hour and would not get
up and get dressed and go with me when I was standing beside his bed
explaining how much it would cost. He got up at 8:45 as usual and did
not make the appt. despite me pleading from 7:15 onward. We payed the
higher rate. The OCD side of him insists we fill the UHaul tank to
exactly 3/8th not a dime more, and the Uhaul guy believed that was NOT
quite the exact amount we left with (I would have went $5 or $10
further and told him) and added $90 to fill the tank or whatever it
was.

The only reason I got a new bed was because there was no way I was going to buy him a bed without getting one for myself. He gave me a guilty act about how much I owed him for what "he's done for me", and I fed into that. He told me if I didn't buy him a nice gift, he wouldn't do any future projects like the ad agency with me. What kind of a friend is that? So, hence I spent $ 700.00 on him and bought him a bed. The day I bought the bed, I paid for everything. I must of spent a total of over $ 1400.00 that day. I even bought him a label maker that he just had to have and lunch. Stuff he was supposed to pay me back for. So, to enter my residence using the key I gave him without my permission and demand that I get out of bed to shell out more money when he hasn't paid one dime during all of this made me mad. Of course to this day, I've still eaten all of these costs and he has not paid me back.

Charles thinks the reason I got my MVP award and the job at Thycotic is all because of him. He didn't play any significant role like he claims. He may of suggested my name to Ben Miller for the MVP award and I did post my resume via his AspNetMetroArea group, but I did all the hard work to get where I am, not him. It got so bad that at one point he got mad at me because I refused to kiss his ass and write a blog entry thanking him for all he's done for me in regards to getting me the MVP award and a job at Thycotic.

When he arrived he stayed with me and Suzy 1 week with his cat we fed
him (Suzy cooked), she cleaned for him and washed clothes and he was a
slob and his usual filthy mouth was a bit much (even for me). David
Melton put him up for the week when I gave him a $1500 C# class and
payed for his flight when obviously I was in rough shape financially.
When my wife left for Japan at end of summer she and I stayed at Ryans
for 3 days in living room -- because I left some things there and left
some crumbs on the counter his OCD side kicked in and he was furious I
took a few days to retrieve the blankets and futons and did not wipe
the counter whereas he was an utter slob in our house in his own home
he was Felix Unger. I was quite busy but on 3rd day arrived at 7am and
picked up all after dropping off bed noght before after 3 hour drive
to get him world's most comfortable queen mattress and box sopring to
replace the crappy tiny ed he could barely fit in and no room for a
girlfriend but that was the Uhaul morning when he refused to get up
and make an appt. to turn in Van with me on time and sign paperwork.

Suzy didn't wash any of my clothes. She did cook, and I thanked her for that. I was respectful and wasn't a slob. Charles was a slob when he stayed at my apartment. He left it a mess. There was moldy food in the kitchen and his stuff all over the place. So, to expect me to come home to a dirty house and not have any problem with it day after day was just wrong.

I told him he could not be a partner and thus volunteering on Attilan
made no sense as there was no pot of gold at the end of the Rainbow.
Then came the nasty emails for $1,300 worth of stuff he charged on his
credit card which now was $700 less than the body work on the van
would cost. But he would send demand emails to me and when I replied
with requests for van payment or repayment on other matters he had
placed a "auto reject mail friom Charles" filter on his incoming email
so all his mails were monologue. I sent it to other accounts and
recieved an assanince "Cease and Desist" email he write himself.

My emails were nothing but polite and I had to reject his emails and send him a cease and desist because his emails were abusive.

He happened to send a partciuylarly absurd email the day LMCM  let me
go with 1 hour notice and Suzy was letting me down on her half 2
months in a row and it just pushed me too far. I felt very impotent
and was on the warpath and did an immature thing after a mountain of
them were done to me -- and he crushed the dream of starting the Ad
Agency when I realized my main infrastructure guy (one of the few with
skills)  would likely chat with customers as filthuily as he did with
Pete Brunone a person I pointed out was a christian and may not tell
him to stop out of politeness but likely did not enjoy the porno/potty
mouth Ryan insisted on. James Hill and I also realized he was only
productive when doing volunteer work from Dlink where they gave him 1
hour of work a day and 7 spare hours, he had no drive to work on enrgy
or weekends something James and I and Suzy all knew working evenings
and weekends was needed for success. Suzy has weekend jobs, James
takes classes on weekends and evening while rasing a daughter, I
devote many weekends to coding and computer research and computer
consulting for family and friends. The lthargy and apathy scraed me
once I got him a job he liked he wanted a 50% share of proift on
business venture with minimal effort since he only had enough energy
for Thycotic and what few things he did were late, incorrect and
sloppy.

Whew

I don't think any more explanation is needed here after reading the above.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 23, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: Ryan Mail Dialog with his absurd Cease and Desist
To:

Ryan Olshan of
(Address removed)

September 18, 2006

DEAR Charles Carroll,

This CEASE AND DESIST ORDER is to inform you that your intimidating
actions against Ryan Olshan has become intolerable. This letter is to
demand that your harassment and intimidation CEASE AND DESIST
immediately. Should you continue to pursue these activities in
violation of this CEASE AND DESIST ORDER, we will not hesitate to
pursue further legal action against you including, but not limited to,
civil action and/or criminal complaints.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Carroll [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:23 PM
To: Ryan Olshan
Subject: I WILL contact you with the Van damage estimate
or give to James Hill if you insist I never contact you. YOU MUST BE
MATURE ENOUGH TO TELL ME WHETHER TO EMAIL VAN ESTIMATE TO YOU OR JAMES
HILL. You will pay it, as you insisted on driving when I was not tired
because you wanted the practice. You cannot issue a "do not contact
me" edict when you have not made arrangements to have the van
estimated and fixed. This kind of immaturity is why I had to ditch you
as a friend -- don't exacerbate it by being immature about returning
my stuff in a timely manner. AND RETURN MY FUCKING KEY NOW not this
Saturday give it to James if necessary but keeping my key weeks after
I returned yours is not appropriate.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Carroll [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:53 PM
To: Ryan Olshan
Cc: ;
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: IMPORTANT please read this PLEASE REPLY

On 9/17/06, Ryan Olshan wrote: > You owe me $ 1335.57 for repayment of
personal loans. Please pay this > amount within 45 days (11/1/2006).

I will try it may take up to 60 days. See below about the van.

> 9/6/2006 - UHal rental cost for picking up bed $ 209.93 -$50 because the guy said the tank was not full enough. You said you only wanted to fill it to exactly 1/4 he found it not enough. Your call there you pay the price. You eat the $50 because you choose to fill it less. $159.33 By the way I will be getting an estimate for the damage on the Van in South Carolina this weekend (I will get 2 estimates to compare) and I expect payment immediately on that so I can fix it now it was a few months ago. I am sick of my gorgeous van looking shitty on the left side.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Carroll [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:31 PM
To: Ryan Olshan Cc: ;
Subject: IMPORTANT please read this PLEASE REPLY

#1 I looked in my hushmail repeatedly to be sure I found the CerebroI
and CerebroII password and I never found such an email from you.
Please send me both those passwords if you have them and if you do not
let me know that so I can reset them.

#2 Please return my key to James Hill or me. I should be home all day
if you want to return it today or tonight I am here. James is at work
till later tonight so since you have keys to his place you can leave
it there just let me know by email that it is in Jame's place once it
is dropped off.

#3 Are you returning my stuff to Suzy or throwing it away? Please let
me know which.. If you do throw it away you will burn a bridge. I have
several reasons to be annoyed and angry at you but I still consider
you a decent human being worthy of trust and respect -- although I am
not willing to team with you, mentor you, apprentice you, or advise
you myself. IF YOU CROSS THE LINE OF THROWING AWAY MINE, MY WIFES
AND/OR KID'S STUFF I WILL LOOSE ALL RESPECT FOR YOUand will never
speak kindly or with respect for you to others.

#4 On 10/1/2006 I will present a list of reciepts and $$$ debts
verbally discussed between you and me so you are 100% clear that I
know of each amount owed to you. I will pay it back as quick as I can.
If I forgot anything you can let me know and I will add it to the
list. I will include a consideration in $$$ to "gift" you for your
Attilan work although I think being a Knight and a MVP and being told
how to do several things to grow your fame go a long way towards
lessening the amount of a "gift" I will include. I will also include a
list of items and money you owe to me that were loaned to you you must
either return or allow me to deduct from what I owe you typical
examples being:

1. The computer chair I bought for $90 at Costco 2. The plane ticket I
bought for you when you came here the first time 3. The class that 4
other people paid to be at you sat in FREE Such kindnesses were based
on you keeping a number of promises you never kept that after months
of advising, telling you that if you could not do it' say so rather
than doing nothing (and silence and lack of action or proud
proclamations of "Everything at Attilan is done" when dozens of things
were not done you said you would) for example

a. The 404 Handler magazine article that could have netted us 3k - 4k
to split that I helped you prepare a lot of but you dropped the ball
on the last 1/2 of the project thus forfeiting a nice chunk of income
for us (and fame for you).

b. the urgent reports and late configuration of ad software the Agency
needed 5 months ago you just recently delivered despite wishing to be
a 50% partner you just dropped the ball on delivering quickly and
customizing quickly.

c. The squandering of dozens of people on Attilan and half finished tasks.

As I said you are single, well paid, have a nicer apartment/life than
most people do it at your age and have a lighter workweek than most
people your age and your income have. People with longer work weeks,
families, and much more debt/expenses have proven more reliable than
you and I continue to fear if you leave so much half done or undone
when young, single and with an easy life once you get "busy" with
Martine, other girlfriends we teach/groom you to get like I did for
MVP, and get busy with starting your own company it wolud get worse
not better and it sucks now. Except for the most urgent tasks, its
like a black hole when you say you take on a task -- a large % of the
time it does not get even declined politely (instead "yeah I will do
that soon"), delegated and followed through, nor get done, yet you
then talk about partnerships, new projects, advice on starting
companies, etc. not realizing that the kind of advice I can give you
and contacts I can introduce you to (email tribes and in person) all
want a highly accountable young go-getter not someone whose eyes are
bigger than their stomach. And I get blamed if they count on you in a
business capacity and you don't finish what you started.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Carroll [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:57 PM
To: Ryan Olshan
Subject: I expect a response to each of my emails

Ignoring them does not tell me what your reaction is. I sent you
several emails and I expect an answer to each of them.

Note that a copy of this letter and a record of its delivery will be
stored. Note too that it is admissible as evidence in a court of law
and will be used as such if need be in the future.

This CEASE AND DESIST ORDER demands that you immediately discontinue
and do not at any point in the future under any circumstances do any
of the following to Ryan Olshan: speak to, contact, pursue, harass,
attack, strike, bump into, brush up against, push, tap, grab, hold,
threaten, telephone (via cellular or landline), instant message, page,
fax, email, follow, stalk, shadow, disturb my peace, keep me under
surveillance, gather information about and/or block my movements at
home, work, social gatherings, religious functions and/or any other
reasonable day-to-day activities.

Should you willfully choose to continue your current course of action,
I will not hesitate to file a complaint with the Police Department for
your ongoing violations of the Criminal Laws in effect in Virginia.

This letter does not constitute an exhaustive statement of my position
nor is it a waiver of any of my rights and/or remedies in this and/or
any other related matter.

We demand your immediate attention and compliance in this matter.

Very truly yours,
Ryan Olshan

As you can see the only absurd emails are Charles responses in the cease and desist. I had to send him this because I could no longer take his abusive emails.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 23, 2007 8:53 AM
Subject: Ryan mail -- straw that broke Camel's back
To:

(his comment about demand from wife without acknowledging or
mentioning Van accountability was just too over the top for me)

 

Charles,

It is now past November 15, the 60 day mark in which you said you
would pay me back. Please let me or (name removed) (email address removed) know how you plan on repaying the money. If
you do not reply or your reply is to the effect of not paying me back,
I will ask your wife for the money.

Regards,
Ryan Olshan

At this point, Charles had passed the period in which he promised to pay me back, so I was going to ask his wife for the money.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 23, 2007 8:59 AM
Subject: Dana puts in her 2 cents
To:

after she begged me for job reference as to her skills which I did
supply and falsely accused Doug Nelson of sexual harrasment (god
people are weird she and Marcie have the most obscene conversational
style I ever met but if one even says 1/00th of what they say in
attempting to fit in they change the standards and shed your comments
in the worse light where you were only mirroring a portion of their
words).

http://community.strongcoders.com/blogs/ryan/archive/2007/01/22/when-the-truth-comes-out.aspx

Good thing that most people know *** from Shinola when contrasting
AspForBlondes.com vs. LearnAsp.com and the YahooGroups that pass
AspAdvice subsidized volume with $0 budget where I work hard to ensure
every question is answered even after MS sabatoged other community
efforts.

In that email, Charles trashes Dana Coffey and Microsoft.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 23, 2007 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: Ryan mail -- straw that broke Camel's back
To:

another thing that scared me is when he arrived he told me about his
"adopted mother" a woman who when mad at her daughter rather than
confront her just pissed in her Daughter's mouthwash and Ryand and her
laughed about it.

Now I realized a kid with a key to my apartment who is passive
agressive. OCD and non-confrontational has access to do nasty things
he thinks are amusing to what Suzy and I eat and drink. Scary stuff.
Of course he never mentions any of this making hinself appear an
innocent victim of an "insane madman".

Charles never caught on that I was joking about this. Not only that, but he got part of the story wrong. But since I was only kidding, there's no use resurrecting it. Also, I made the mistake of giving him a key to my apartment and as a result he came over when he pleased. The one time I used the chain on my door so he couldn't come in as he wished, he threatened to cut the chain off the next time I did that.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 23, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Ryan mail -- straw that broke Camel's back
To:

Last scary thing.

A guy who wanted 50% partnership in my AdAgency favorite music was
filthy Gansta Rap on sC drives he frowned and pouted at Joel, Lennon,
Queen, et al but unless I played Channel 40 where he could sing along
with
"slide my big *** on your *** you *** whore"
for 7.5 hours he was only estatic then and while I did it to end his
puting my respect dropped with every lyric I heard and I tried to
explain to him unless he found some women who were likely STD carriers
most girls he could potentially date would not consider his musical
fancies to be a desirablke quality -- they most likely would impede
it, and he did seem to aspire to dating. Fell on Deaf ears.

Garbage in your brain must not be risk free. I knew that stuff affects
his ability to relate to people in gross and subtle ways like when he
asked Suzy to "sit on his face" while lying restfully on my couch --
something that I warned him would cause me to decline him ever
entering my apartment again if it persisted.

We were supposed to work on an ad agency together. However, I had to do all the hard work, which included all the programming, so I wanted 50%. It doesn't matter what kind of music I listen to. It is irrelevant to my part in the ad agency. Although Charles claims innocence to this as if he was traumatized listening to my music, he sang along and one time started singing a rap song he made up himself that went as follows: "I rub my d i c k on your c l i t. I rub my d i c k on your c l i t." He sang it out loudly, proudly, and smiled as he sung it. That incident with his girlfriend did happen. But only after he shared intimate details of their sex life including a text message where they talked about face fucking. At that point, I got the impression that I could joke about that type of stuff with her. I did feel bad about my comments after I found out that it made her uncomfortable.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 23, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [KnightsOfAspRoundTable] Sad abd Sadder
To:

I have learned a LOT about how to defuse things like this mostly by
not replying with facts unless a day of editing is done to avoid the
words being twisted and even then they seize onto one sentence out of
many and then ascribe different meanings and quote out of context so I
just now do not waste time presenting the things that refute their
claims instead just keeping a positive uplifting hurtful blog, so
people can read my accounts devoid of negativity.

The one thing I feel good about is that the world can know more about
me personally from http://blog.charlescarroll.com
than they could ever know in the years before, as LearnAsp.com should
be about ASP.net/ASP lessons not me, and by writing dozens of entries
of a positive nature that truly share some intimate portions of my
life (family, deaths, hobbies, entertainment) without crossing some of
the personal lines many blogs do and sharing innapropriate material,
when those jackasses point to my blog, the reader who is not one of
"them" in terms of people who band together to be negative and
interpret things in subjective ways that defame people, and post
drivel, my entries are hopefully a sharp contrast in both quality of
writing and hopefully optimism and true respect for the people who do
make the world better.

The internet makes people who would normally not be "public" figures
into them in some cases if their websites and businesses succeed and
their communties thrive, and exposes them to people both wonderful and
terrible who try to understand and interpret a person they don't know
from one sided accounts, extremely limited information, and try to
make profound conclusions with data samples so small and biased and
innacurate and most importantly ascribing and projecting their motives
and failings super-imposed onto a person who is NOT THEM and is truly
a person with different motivations and viewpoints that transcend what
the person is capable of understanding or grocking. In that case, one
defense is more rich meaningful data about one's self presented more
eloquently than your detractor's character indictments may ensure the
real nature of one's character is crystal clear and help paint the
real picture they attempt to defile rather than ignore or admire.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 23, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [KnightsOfAspRoundTable] Proof Ryan cannot be trusted...
To:

The physical violence was definitely a mistake I made which was a very incorrect thing to do and not anything I have concealed or denied -- as a South Carolina resident serving me with papers would be hard if I choose to flee. I went to court and pleaded guilty. and it came about by not really researching and confronting the proper response and tactics to depression which I have since taken a long hard read of several books on the subject all December.

I crossed a line I won't cross again no matter how provoked. I was 100% wrong.

You have already done so much by being patient with a series of unfortunate circumstances* (and great ones the kids this summer) and poor decisions on my part cause me to be late beyond excuse on repayment.

Friends like you all make a harsh difficult unbearable world liveable when times are darkest.

I know selfish folks like Bill and Ryan can't understand covering SC Rent + my half + roommate's half (or the need to maintain 2 places so bulky furniture is at low rent place, and one can live in smaller place in high income area to not be saddled with a large apartment fee in a high rent area and get further behind) when roommate fell even when my situation was precarious I was paying my half + hers with late fees and was only slightly over a month behind when evicted. Suzy's carelessness could have got her evicted in September if I did not cover her, giving her the benefit of doubt and me a lot to worry about. In their world, nobody covers for anybody particularly if it puts themselves at risk. Or for that matter when Ryan realized dLink would never pay for a class or plane to better him -- paying his plane fare here and choosing him rather than others for win-win server admin that taught him much.

It's nice to make excuses, but when your name is on the lease along with your girlfriend, it's a joint responsibility. Excuses after excuse after excuse.

From: Charles Carroll <>
Date: Jan 24, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Bill Tries Something New to avoid loosing MVP status and making enemies
To:

In the past Bill Ryan tends to post a blog entry and then the MVP
folks or his friends (or his girlfriend) demand he remove it for any
number of reasons usually because they don't want to link to such a
negative blog, or they think he is being unprofessional towards that
person by posting it.

For example Kim (his gf) has an ex-husband he routinely attacks and
then removes the entry later. It does probably hurt the guy's feelings
the time it is there, but once it is removed, even though it annoyed
him, there is not lasting evidence of what a venomous unfair ass Bill
is.

On 1/10/2007 for example he wrote a super nasty post about me and Doug
based on data Ryan gave him and within an hour or 2 he removed it, I
just happened to read it before he did and he and Ryan probably being
negative and bored enjoyed it being there for an hour or 2 before
someone he knew made him take it down or he had second thoughts.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/williamryan/pages/chronic-failure-syndrome.aspx
is a page he made that does not appear on his main blog. This way the
MVP folks, Kim, etc. will not find him being an ass by browsing. They
have to know the URL and it never appears with other blog entries. But
he can be nasty as he wants about me, and the MVP lead will not find
it casually. He can even link to it from a Blog entry and as long as
the MVP lead (and most casual readers trying to see if he is up to no
good) doesn't click any links in the blog entry he will not get nailed
for unprofessional conduct.

I can't speak for Bill, but it's interesting for Charles to say this as he's the king of having hidden pages on his site about how much he hates this person and that person.